Guest Post: Is the Fair Tax really going to be fair for boosting America’s future?

UPDATE: I have edited the FairTax information to reflect what is in Congress as of April 2013

Below is a guest post from someone who is more of an Income Tax thinker, than a FairTax thinker. I picked this post up because I wanted to help educate the individual on the FairTax; and because he seems genuinely willing to learn. I will leave my comments below and I hope others do too. After all, if we are going to educate people on something, should we not be educated on the subject as well?  ~Robert Williams


Is the Fair Tax really going to be fair for boosting America’s future?

Are you someone who thought that the Flat Tax was a brilliant idea that failed? If answered yes, you’re probably going to love the Fair Tax. The Fair Tax is the “let’s dump the Tax code” idea from the Congress that plans to abolish all death taxes, federal income taxes, capital profit taxes and payroll taxes to replace it with a national retail sales tax. A group, well known as the Americans for Fair Taxation introduced the Fair Tax Act of 2003 that would call off all the aforementioned taxes and replace it with a single tax of 23% that will be administered by the present sales tax authorities.

Don’t you think that a flat 23% tax would have a drastic detrimental impact on the poor people? Yes, due to this gross indiscrimination the Fair Tax Act proposes the poor people to pay a rebate that is equivalent to 23% of the poverty level. As per the Department of Health and Human Services, the guideline for poverty for a family of 4 in 2008 was around $21,200 and this means that a poor family with 4 people will receive a check of $525 a month in order to be able to cover the costs of the sales tax.

Is the Fair Tax really fair for the American economy?

As per Linder, an economist, the Fair Tax momentum continues to build fast and this means that this particular Act is gradually gaining the support of the lawmakers. The bill now has 21 co-sponsors and all of them represent a bipartisan coalition of members throughout the nation. However, according to Linder, the present tax code highly violates the principle of equality as special rates for the special circumstances actually violate the original Constitution and therefore it is unfair. But after the implementation of the Fair Tax Act, each and every tax payer will require paying the same rate and will also require controlling their liability through their expenses. The tax paid by an individual will entirely depend on the lifestyle that he spends as the more money you spend, the more tax you’ll have to pay.

Advantages of the Fair Tax Act and studies that are in favor of it

Well, the most obvious advantage of the Fair Tax Act is the removal of the annual income tax headache and the cost that you have to pay to the tax preparers. By eliminating the Internal Revenue Service, government spending would also be reduced and some other proponents even argue that an increase in consumer spending would lead to an improved GDP, wages and productivity of jobs.

Without closely determining the assumptions and the calculations of each study about the pros and cons of the Fair Tax Act, it is tough to understand the way in which the Fair Tax Act will impact the US economy. If this Act is ever passed in the nation, the implementation has to be slow enough so that the performance can be easily evaluated. A gradual and slow shift from income taxes to the fair tax would be the best way out. A huge and fast change may make this entire plan unworkable.

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MY RESPONSES:

To answer your two primary questions: YES and YES. If  those two answers weren’t clear enough after you read the Bill, then you don’t know the FairTax as well as you think you do.

1. Jason says: “Are you someone who thought that the Flat Tax was a brilliant idea that failed? NO! And I can almost assure you that most people who are FairTax supporters now, understand why a flat tax system was (and still is) a HORRIBLE IDEA; the main reason being a flat tax is still a tax on income. That means it leaves in place the IRS, the Capital Gains taxes, estate taxes, and a number of other mechanisms that the FairTax eliminates.

2. Jason says: “The Fair Tax is the “let’s dump the Tax code” idea from the Congress that plans to abolish all death taxes, federal income taxes, capital profit taxes and payroll taxesWRONG! The FairTax is NOT from Congress. It is a Bill in Congress that was adopted by a couple of Congressmen interested in bettering America. But it was NOT written, created, or even crafted by Congress. The FairTax is a product of 5 businessmen from Houston, TX who were fed up with trying to reduce their taxes and not enough time trying to grow their businesses.

3. Jason says: “…introduced the Fair Tax Act of 2003“. Actually, the FairTax was created in 1995 and debuted in the 106th Congress in 1999. It has been in every session of Congress since then and continues to pick up momentum. The current bill is named “The Fair Tax Act of 2013″, is number HR-25 in the house, and S-122 in the Senate. It also has a companion bill that will repeal the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution named HJ Res 16.

4. Jason says: “Don’t you think that a flat 23% tax would have a drastic detrimental impact on the poor people?Can we back up a couple of lines? As you stated previously (I copied it into my response #2), The FairTax “plans to abolish all death taxes, federal income taxes, capital profit taxes and payroll taxes“. So does it make sense to you that replacing all those taxes (and more) with a 23% consumption tax would ADD a 23% burden to poor people?

It doesn’t make sense to me at all, here’s why: The vast majority of poor people work for a living. They earn a paycheck from an employer who is required by law to take an remit certain taxes to the federal government. Depending on the wages being earned, that could be 10% or 15% for the income tax and another 7.65% for the payroll tax. If those taxes are no longer being taken from them, then they have received an immediate payraise of 17.65% to 22.65%. That right there is more spending power in their pockets immediately. On top of that, the FairTax advances us on all of the taxes we pay, based on the Dept. of Health and Human Services National Poverty Guideline (NPG). So, a family of 4 (this is an average household in America) will receive an additional $564/mo to help them OUT of poverty. So I hope Jason sees where his statement is incorrect.

5. Jason says: “As per the Department of Health and Human Services, the guideline for poverty for a family of 4 in 2008 was around $21,200 and this means that a poor family with 4 people will receive a check of $525 a month in order to be able to cover the costs of the sales tax.That is partially correct. Let me explain. First, your numbers are a little off, but I understand where you’re going. As you read in my last comment the number has increased with the fluctuating economy. It will continue to do so after the FairTax, but in the opposite direction. As the economy gets better, the poverty guideline will lower, ultimately reducing the amount of money shelled out to lower-income families.

Second, that value IS the amount of taxes that a family of 4 spending AT the poverty level would spend. In 2011, the Family Consumption Allowance for a family of 4 was $29,420. Multiply that by the FairTax rate of 23% and you get $6,766. Divide that by 12 and you get $564/month. You can do this with any family size. As you can see, the FairTax UNTAXES every legal, registered, US family up to the National Poverty Guideline. So does it make sense for anyone to say that the FairTax only helps those spending less than $15,000? No, it doesn’t.

Jason says: “The bill now has 21 co-sponsors and all of them represent a bipartisan coalition of members throughout the nation.I think you’re reading the wrong version of the Bill entirely. The current version of HR-25 can be found here and now has 63 Co-Sponsors (and the 1 Sponsor). The Senate version, S-122 can also be found here and has 7 co-sponsors (plus the 1 Sponsor); which gives us a total of 72 supporters in Congress; the HIGHEST number of initial co-sponsors in its history.

Jason says: “If this Act is ever passed in the nation, the implementation has to be slow enough so that the performance can be easily evaluated. A gradual and slow shift from income taxes to the fair tax would be the best way out. A huge and fast change may make this entire plan unworkable.I disagree with that 100%. I hope others who disagree will also voice exactly why they do so. A “gradual and slow shift from income taxes” would mean that something is left in place. If we leave anything in place for our corrupt politicians to toy and tinker with, they are going to screw something up. We DO NOT want to give Congress the power to tax us on both our income and on consumption. They can already do that now IF THEY WANT TO. The reason they aren’t is because it would be political suicide to even suggest anything like that. However, if we HAND them that ability, by allowing them a “gradual and slow shift from income taxes”, then there is no way we will have a completed process….E-VER! What we need to do is follow the FairTax, AS WRITTEN! The FairTax will immediately rip out ALL of the income tax code, rules, and regulations. It will switch to a consumption tax system on 1/1/20xx of the year following its passage, and it will then set in motion to abolish the IRS within 3 years. Over $22,000,000 went into the research of what the FairTax is, what it will do, and how it will work. Let’s not screw it up by handing Congress the keys to the Lamborghini.

The income tax exports our jobs, rather than our products. The FairTax brings jobs home.

FairTax FACT: The income tax exports our jobs, rather than our products. The FairTax brings jobs home.
FairTaxFraud: By giving the rich $700 billion in free money from estate and gift taxes they will do exactly what they did when Bush and Reagan gave the rich huge tax cuts. Did they invest the money in building American jobs for a better tomorrow? Did they make America a better place to live? Did they modernize existing factories to compete with foreigners? NOPE! Even though America has one of the least repressive tax systems in the entire civilized world, they did exactly what Ross Perot said they would do. The took the money and ran. They used the money to move the factories and jobs to Mexico, China, and India where they could get prison labor and third-world wages totaling mere cents per hour for hard work which no American could work for. Ross Perot was dead-on about the “great sucking sound.” Wealth knows no loyalty or patriotism in America. The FairTax will result in more outsourcing and un-American behavior. The bottom line is the FairTax is a job killer. The alternative No-Tax Plan would tax all products that were NOT manufactured with American labor. It would tax money and property of those who outsource jobs and businesses. They can’t escape the tax as long as they own property in America. It provides extremely strong financial incentives for bringing jobs back to America and would save millions of jobs.

FAIRTAXER: First, our current – regressive – tax system taxes productivity which has been pushing U.S corporations offshore for decades now. Ever heard of Daimler-Chrysler? The reason they were Daimler-Chrysler and not Chrysler-Daimler is because the corporate executives weighed the options of bringing the merger of Daimler (a German-born corporation) and Chrysler (an American-born corporation) to the U.S. versus taking it to Germany. It’s pretty obvious the weight of the U.S. tax system outweighed other options to bring the merger to U.S. soil.

By untaxing corporations, the FairTax will turn the United States into a tax haven for businesses. Under the FairTax, the United States stands alone as the only advanced nation in the world with a zero rate of federal tax on productive income, whether from returns on capital or personal earnings. The U.S. becomes the most attractive, tax-haven venue in the world for investment, manufacturing and exports. Investment lost to foreign outsourcing repatriates to our shores as the U.S. becomes the global seat of production, management, research and export activity. Capital trapped offshore by our tax morass repatriates as well. Eventually, other nations will be forced to follow suit and reduce marginal tax rates or lose their investment to the U.S.; this global reform stimulates worldwide economic growth to the benefit of the global community, thus providing U.S. producers with larger markets.

Second, with the exception of countries that employ a VAT (Value Added Tax), America has one of the MOST regressive tax systems. (See Definition of regressive tax). The CBO may disagree with that statement, but when you realize that the richer you get, the more resources you have to avoiding taxes, you’ll understand where we’re coming from. The FairTax does not tax productivity, the FairTax does not redistribute wealth, and the FairTax does not have loopholes the rich can play with.

Third, if you had a choice of moving into either of two houses where the only real difference was that House A paid your utilities (inclusive in the price) and House B did not (for the same price) which house would you choose to live in? Isn’t the choice obvious? So, if the FairTax lowers costs in the U.S. and taxes imports (which it does propose), then isn’t it obvious that with the FairTax more people and more businesses would want to move here and thus bring more jobs to U.S. soil? It would be cheaper for companies to open their doors on U.S. soil and sell to the rest of the world than it would be from any other country.

Let’s look at the scenario of corporations moving their business to Mexico, China, and India. Under our current system that is exactly what has happened since the Internet bubble burst in 1998 and it continues to happen today. Why is that? Because we’re not taxing imports and making it easier for companies to stay here in the U.S. The FairTax, on the other hand, removes the corporate tax burden, does not tax exports on goods, and does tax imports. So, moving a company to any other country would alienate their goods, cost more money to import to the U.S. and reduce their profits. Again, I don’t know what these guys at FTF are thinking, but it’s backwards and it doesn’t smell right.

AFFT DATA SHOWS FAIRTAX GENERATES MORE REVENUE

Original Release (PDF): http://www.fairtax.org/PDF/AFFT.09.10.JL.Release.pdf

Content of PDF:

Americans Frustrated Watching Tax Policymakers Play “Ground Hog Day”

Washington, DC – Americans for Fair Taxation (AFFT) released today revenue estimates that the FairTax, a national sales tax, would have collected far more federal revenue in 2009 and 2010 than the current income tax based system.

The estimates demonstrate that FairTax-generated revenues for 2009 would have been $171 billion more than the IRS revenue and in 2010; the FairTax would have generated $267 billion more.

AFFT provided the data to the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction or Super Committee recently and is releasing it to the public today.

“ Watching Washington tax policymakers churn a few well-worn and ineffective ideas to come up with the same disappointing results is like watching the movie ‘Ground Hog Day’, except this is real life not a movie” said AFFT Chairman and Co-Founder Leo E. Linbeck, Jr.

“No wonder the American people are so frustrated! Some in Washington want to adjust and tinker with the current sclerotic system but working Americans are ready to throttle it and them and start fresh. The time for reform is over. We need to be seeking replacement.

“The FairTax is a hybrid within the range of consumption tax alternatives— more transparent, simpler and it returns the power to determine how much tax is paid to the American people.

“We believe it addresses the nearly $1.5 trillion in deficit reduction the congressional deficit committee is charged with making, and responds to the nearly $4 trillion in cuts offered by Democrats and other partisan issues.

The FairTax projections are based on a 23 percent tax inclusive rate of taxation as proscribed in the Fair Tax legislation (HR 25/S 13).

The estimates were provided by David Tuerck, Chairman of the Economics Department and Executive Director of the Beacon Hill Institute at Suffolk University in Boston.

“Because revenues from a consumption tax are always more stable over the business cycle than revenues from an income tax, it stands to reason that the FairTax would have reduced the deficit in recent years, had it been in place,” said Tuerck.

Formed in 1995, AFFT is a nonprofit, nonpartisan, grassroots organization dedicated to replacing the current tax system with a progressive national retail sales tax.

For a copy of the FairTax data go to FairTax.org/EstimatedRevenue or call 703-931-2324.

FairTax: A benefit to Small Business in America

With over 5 million small businesses accounting for nearly 90% of business in America, it is imperative that we fight for a tax plan that will benefit us. It is time for a tax plan that will put small businesses on the same level playing field as medium and large businesses in America. According to the National Small Business Administration (NSBA), “The current U.S. income tax system discourages personal savings and investments by taxing capital gains, dividends and earned interest. Business owners and wage earners struggle under the burden of a very regressive payroll tax. The income tax - not to mention the Alternative Minimum Tax – is unbelievably complex, time consuming and costly to administer”.

If you own or manage a small business… [FULL ARTICLE]

FairTax – Expanding the Tax Base

EXPANDING THE TAX BASE AND INCREASING REVENUE UNDER THE FAIR TAX

It’s been said by those “in the know” (both Democrats and Republicans) that “the United States doesn’t need more taxes – it needs more taxPAYERS”. Here are several sources for more taxpayers:

1. ILLEGAL MIGRANTS. I’m not going to get into what constitutes an illegal migrant here. That is a subject for someone else’s blog. Let us assume that the Department of Homeland Security is close in their estimate that there are 11 million people currently in the US illegally. Though they add to their local economies in terms of goods purchased, these people enjoy the same benefits as Americans without paying for those benefits because they do not file income tax returns. (more…)

RE: Six Reasons Why The FairTax Is A Really Bad Idea

The reason I’m posting this here is because, as you can see, my rebuttal to Alex Kauffman’s post “Six Reasons Why The FairTax Is A Really Bad Idea” is quite lengthy. The Blogger interface, although very easy to log in with my OpenID, limits posts to 4,096 characters. This was well over 11,000; so I would have had to split it into 3 separate responses. Besides, I get to format it the way I want now. Sorry Alex, posting here was by far the simplest option. (more…)

Reasoning Out the FairTax

Reason Magazine did far more emoting than reasoning in their recent (May, 2011)  article on the FairTax, Fair Tax Fouls.  Instead of using logic and analysis of the benefits or drawbacks of the FairTax compared to our current, antiquated system of income taxation, or contrasting the FairTax with other tax reform proposals, Tim Cavanaugh chose to focus on phantasms and boogey men in constructing his rationale for dismissing the FairTax. (more…)

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